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2005-02-23 [Jay Ladlehaus]: yeah they're a funny people...I guess it's what happens when your capital has the same name as the biggest pussy in the Trojan War.
2005-02-23 [Lady Edana-Arianrhod Rós]: LOL *snickers* And your stereotypical male is what most others consider gay.
2005-02-23 [Jay Ladlehaus]: and dirty...and smelly.
2005-02-23 [Lady Edana-Arianrhod Rós]: huh?
2005-02-23 [Jay Ladlehaus]: the stereotype
2005-02-23 [Lady Edana-Arianrhod Rós]: I thought they all dressed like fags.
2005-02-23 [Jay Ladlehaus]: yeah they do, but haven't you ever heard of smelly Frenchman. Or seen that Simpsons episode where Marge throws Homer out and in less than a day he's as dirty as a Frenchman?
2005-02-23 [Lady Edana-Arianrhod Rós]: LOL Nope I didn't see it. But... I'm thinking that refers to something other then hygien.... Kind of like the Italians...
2005-02-23 [Jay Ladlehaus]: erm, if you saw Homer, it was across the board. I should have put "dirty as a Frenchman" in quotes up there.
2005-02-23 [Lady Edana-Arianrhod Rós]: *shrugs* Who knows
2005-03-30 [Lokasenna]: I love It!(and I'm french!)
2005-03-31 [Lady Edana-Arianrhod Rós]: LOL Well, I'm glad you aren't offended. I've had some very bad, as well as very good experiences with the French, so I don't totally dislike them ^.~ Besides, my bf speaks French.
2005-03-31 [Jay Ladlehaus]: I hadn't really had any good French experiences from when I was very young til recently. When I was younger I would always be sad when I heard about Napolean being defeated. Recently, I take classes with a French woman who is pretty cool.
2005-03-31 [Thorgin]: Well americans doesn't really have anything to say about the french. If it weren't for the french i'm not too sure they would have defeated the british in the revolutionary war, although it is possible.
2005-03-31 [Jay Ladlehaus]: No, America still would have won. The Revolution was growing more powerful every year. The French, with their military aid, military advisors, and soldiers helped to hasten its close. It also helped that the French Navy surrounded Yorktown by sea, preventing any escape from oncoming American forces, thus forcing Cornwall's surrender.
2005-03-31 [Jay Ladlehaus]: What upsets Americans comes after the war. (1) French scientist states that all species of life and by extension human in the New World are inferior, which the first anti-American remark in the true, hateful sense of the word. This was during the term of America's third president, Thomas Jefferson. (2) French and English navies raid, capture, and sink American merchant ships in an effort to starve the other side. There is some limited military retaliation against the French by America (mostly against French assets in the Caribbean), but America eventually goes to war with the British, who not only were more aggressive in the raids,
2005-03-31 [Jay Ladlehaus]: and additionally were gang-pressing American sailors off their ships to serve in the Royal Navy. (3) French support the South during America's Civil War. (4) After being saved in two World Wars and given Vietnam, the French proceed to make the Vietnamese situation worse, and the greatest benefactor of America's liberation, Charles deGaulle, quits NATO, trying to create a third force in Cold War. This is when France develops nuclear arms. France only rejoins NATO when Europe and former French colonies decline to go under France's nuclear umbrella. Second Gulf War: in conjunction with Germany, France comes out strongly against the invasion of Iraq,
2005-03-31 [Jay Ladlehaus]: in which France has important oil contracts with Saddam Hussein. Additionally, France attempts to work within NATO to deny military aid to Turkey if Turkey allows its soil to be used for launching attacks. This maneuver fails, largely due to France losing its NATO seniority when it walked out previously. (5) French rioters assault McDonalds, killing one employee, accusing America of cultural imperialism. Nevermind that the French are constantly sneering at pretty much all non-European culture and that the action would be like Americans lining up at the docks to destroy shipments of French wine and cheese.
2005-03-31 [Jay Ladlehaus]: And yes, they do sneer. When Californian, Chiliean, and Australian wines started edging out French wines in quality, the French media claims the wine industry is being taken over by "barbarians."
2005-04-04 [Lady Edana-Arianrhod Rós]: I agree with Blue, most of what France contributed was supplies or Money, I'm sure America would have come up with something if France wasn't there, we are fairly resourseful
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